Grant Elliott on Instagram, Rehab Education and Diagnosis First

Something I've learned is if you just tell someone, hey, you're wrong, you have to do it this way, no one's going to be perceptive of that. That's going to turn everybody off. And the reason I know that is because I used to do that. I used to say things like that. No one wants to listen to a jerk who thinks they know everything and who's telling them they're wrong. So ultimately, and I've said this in a few posts, I don't want to demonize any movement. You're listening to the Restoring Human Movement podcast, where movement experts discuss the latest evidence-based practices to help you and your clients move with mastery. And now, your host, Dr. Sebastian Gonzales.

Hey guys, this is Dr. Sebastian Gonzales with the Restoring Human Movement podcast of 2019. Thanks for being part of the Movement Movement. So, we're going to have on Grant Elliott today. Actually, he is a seventh-term chiropractic student at Logan University. And he's doing amazing work with Instagram. I'm always very envious of people who have a good stage presence, who do a really good job of communicating very complex things in a simple manner. And he's doing an amazing job with it. And if you've heard some of the past podcasts I've done, if you've been late public or patients, you might not have cared as much with some of the marketing YouTube material topics that we've covered.

But for the most part, it's important. If you've found me useful, you've found me because someone has helped push this content to you. So, us as clinicians, to get information out there is an important thing. And we don't learn it in school. We don't learn anything about it. And we're deathly afraid of public speaking, just like everybody else. So, creating this kind of thing is hard. It's really hard. And Grant's doing an amazing job at it. So, find him on Instagram. It's Rehab Fix. And he just rebranded. And you're going to notice that there's also, too, if you go down his thread, and you're going to notice that his material changed a little bit.

But here's what I want you to notice, at least from the viewer standpoint, is he's excited and interactive, okay? He's just taking a very simple concept and suggesting a few changes. He's not telling people to not necessarily do certain things all the time or demonize movement. He's just trying to improve a little bit more. So, he's very positive with it. It's amazing. It's really good. And the thing that I think is the most amazing part is he's doing it in Term 7. So, if you've heard my story in the past, I started my content creation in Term 7, too. So, you're about a year or so until you get out of school.

And we're not trying to tell anyone that we're fixing things or we're diagnosing things because we can't at that point. But for the most part, we can still help out with creating movement-based corrections. So, it's very pure. I love it. So, Grant's going to share with us his journey with that today. And hopefully, we're going to see – you're going to hear a lot about skateboarding. So, if you skateboarded in the past, you're going to resonate well with this thing. But if you're students, you're going to love it. If you're patients – by the way, his content is more patient-friendly than clinician-friendly, although we can learn a lot from it.

So, go on and follow him. RehabFix. It's amazing stuff. Now, before we get into that, I'll tell you a little bit of a story I have here. So, I got to hear Third Eye Blind coming in today. The Semi-Charmed Life. You know what I'm talking about? And I make a smile like a drug for you. Do whatever what you want to do coming over you. Keep on smiling. What will we go through? Don't stop to the rhythm that divides you. And I speak to you like the chorus of the verse. Yeah. So, I don't know if you get those songs that pump you up, but I definitely got the songs pumping up. It doesn't matter what mood I'm in.

I'm like, you know what? I'm going to go down with this song right now. And it's funny, over the 4th of July holiday, so we get this playlist that people were kind of complaining about. Like, I like to play reggae. That's just my thing. You know, like Revelation, Iration, Iration Radio. It's all popular. People love that shit now. But anyways, so people are like, you know what? You guys keep playing like this same music. I'm like, I don't know. It gets people pumped up, except for you. And they're like, no, you got to get some better stuff. And I said, okay, fine. And once you guys pick over this next year, you pick something that makes you get going.

But you got to keep in mind, though, that when you make this 4th of July playlist, that you can't actually pick songs that only get you pumped up. So, I'm like, you know, there was a lot of songs that I actually didn't pick because I'm like, this is a cool song. This is great. I love it. But no one likes it. Like an example, one that would work that I don't love is turn down for what? I mean, you go through a grocery store or like one time I was in a shoe store where like grandma was down. As soon as it came on, the shoe store all of a sudden started getting real wiggly. Like she started wiggling in her seat, you know.

So, there's songs that just get people going. And one of them that does not work, no matter how much people push it, they seem like, they act like they like it. At first, they like the idea, but they don't actually move. And this was the Britney Spears' Hit Me Baby One More Time. And so, you put it on and they're like, oh yeah, I remember, yeah, I like this one. And I think what you hear is nostalgia. And I'm like, okay, so every time this song comes on, without you having to think, y'all better dance. And so, the song comes on and I'm like, I'm going to put it on right now. Put it on right now.

And they're like, oh, wait, wait. So, let me, I think this is how the moves go. And I'm like, look, if you're not just going, if you're just not going, then it ain't good enough. But you put on some, like, real, like, dirty bass type of stuff. Like, even, like, I'm not a big fan of hip-hop. But you put that kind of stuff on, like, turn down for what? You don't think twice. You all of a sudden, you just move. So, Third Eye Blind is my jam. What's yours? Here we go. Okay, everyone, welcome on Grant Elliott, who is, you're a student right now. I am still a student, yes, a trimester seven student, to be specific.

Seven. So, for everybody, actually, you know, what we didn't actually talk about was that, who do you think is going to learn the most from you in this interview? A student, a patient, or an advanced clinician? Because they're going to be like, well, I don't want to hear this if it's not for me. Good question. I mean, ideally, I would think student. Because I still have so much to learn. But I've learned a lot up until this point. And I've taken a lot of advice from other docs. And I'm kind of doing the things that they told me they wish they would have done when they're in my position. And I'm trying to implement those now.

So, ideally, I think students would gain a lot of benefit from, hopefully, gain some benefit from the things I might bring up. Oh, good. Yeah, I actually, I thought you'd, I thought it'd be interesting to have you on because you're, like, so when I started, actually, in my practice, around term seven or eight is when I started making videos and stuff, too. Yours are much better, but you're just, like, straight hustling. And it's tough. And I don't see a lot of students of any profession really doing that. They're still kind of absorbing the information versus teaching it. And when you're teaching it, it's very different.

I'm sure you've realized that already, right? Oh, for sure. And, yeah, it's kind of like I don't really know what I got myself into once I really committed to this social media game, if you will. Because, yeah, I listened to your podcast with Doc Jen Fit, and I was analyzing everything she said. And she was like, yeah, you got to post every day, you know, almost two times a day. And I was like, damn. Okay. I was like, okay, let's do this. She basically scared me out of Instagram is what happened on that podcast. Yeah, my gosh. Yeah, she would have scared me out. But then I was like, all right, I'm just going to try this and see where it goes.

And so I am hustling. I appreciate that term to the best of my ability. And, you know, I'm trying to teach. I know that I still have so far to go. And I'm probably saying some things incorrectly already. But I'll have time to correct that down the road. Yeah. The good thing is that they're all going to get buried, and then you'll make a new one again. Exactly. Yeah. So I know we just jumped into the conversation, but can you explain or just tell everyone who you are, where you live, where you're going to school, and stuff like that? Okay. So, yeah, I'm Grand LA, obviously. I'm originally from just north of Indianapolis in a suburb called Carmel.

It's part of Hamilton County. It's a really nice county out there. And Carmel is kind of known as, like, the rich, snobby city, right? But I was in the southmost part of it, on the border between Carmel and Indianapolis. So I lived in a small little ranch home, had to pay my way through college, pay my way through here and now in grad school. But yet, an undergrad ever was like, oh, you're from Carmel, like wine and cheese district. So I'm not one of those, nor do I have anything against them, but just kind of a funny nuance. What does a silver spoon taste like, actually? Oh, my gosh. It kind of makes the steak taste worse, but the golden flakes taste a little bit better.

I want to know, though, right? So, yeah, I grew up there. I'm in St. Louis now. I'm going to Logan University. It's College of Chiropractic. Like I said, I'm a trimester seven student, and that's out of ten trimesters. So I'm in my last year at this point, which is, like, pretty much insane. It's crazy to say that. And I'm already, like, looking for, like, residency options and things like that because I've got to know where I'm moving by next August. And that's just unbelievable. But, yeah, still a student. I do have my CSCS. I can't remember if I said that or not. So I am personal training on the side purely for experience, to be honest, because I was learning all these things in school.

And I was always hearing, you know, you've got to learn how to integrate everything. And I was like, all right, well, no better way to integrate this cool material than with real people at a gym. So I started personal training just, I think, just over a year ago so I could take these things and practice it there with real people. And I've gained huge experience from doing that. And that was one of the best decisions I've made, to be honest, since being at Cairo school. What do you actually – what do you think you learned through that process of working with people and just implementing that you didn't maybe learn in school?

Like, was there a part where you're like, oh, shit, we should have known this? Yeah, communication, first off, big time. Sure, they always say, like, all right, you've got to, like, you know, use – I don't want to say simple terms. I don't like that connotation. But more, like, basic terms. You can't act like you're talking with fellow colleagues. And it's one thing to say that, but it's another thing to actually do that, like, consistently all the time. So when I first started training, I was using all these terms without even realizing it. And I was, like, totally over-queuing or, like, queuing the wrong way.

And I was like, oh, my God, I'm awful at this. And then the more I did it, I learned how to talk better. I learned how to get people into the positions I wanted better and just helping people move better. And that is something I would have not learned in school because I get my hands on twice as many people now because I have my people at the gym and I have my people in student clinic. So the experience I'm getting is priceless. Do they encounter you a different way, like, looking at you as a coach or a trainer versus a clinician? Are there different questions or different concerns that they have, maybe?

Not entirely because I do inform them on my background. So I think they do feel a little bit more comfortable asking me potentially more complex questions. But I don't find that is super common. I mean, we have pretty low-level conversations for the most part. But, I mean, I think they would be comfortable asking any coach or any trainer about those issues. They just know I might have a more specific answer. But, I mean, I feel like the conversation is pretty normal. I would imagine them to approach anyone that way. I haven't really noticed. What's their goals then? I'm just curious because I know that with clinical-based stuff, a lot of times they'll come in and it's like, well, what do you want from me?

And they're like, I want you to get me out of pain. It's like, can you dig deeper? Give me something more than that. I would imagine when they come to you as a trainer, they're like, I want to lose weight or get stronger. Or they might leave other parts off. So, are their goals a little bit different or the same? So, here's part of the beauty. Yes, you're absolutely right. But because my boss at work, he knows my background as well. He will only set me up with clients that have goals that he knows I can complement very well. So, not that I'm opposed to helping someone lose weight, but that's not what I'm passionate about.

And he knows that. So, if someone comes in, they just want to lose weight and that's it, he won't send them to me. But if someone comes in and they're like, hey, I've tried working out before, but I have achy knees or my back stiff or my shoulder hurts and I can't do these movements and I don't know what to do, then I get those kind of people. Or if people just purely want to strength train, which I like lifting heavy stuff and all that jazz, so he'll put those people with me too. But I kind of have more of a specific niche, either people who really want to improve function or people who just purely want to get bigger and stronger.

That's cool. That's good that he's delegating out that way. Oh, for sure. I'm sure it's more fun for you. Absolutely. That's exactly what I would like. So, that's awesome. So, as you've gone through school then, has your mindset changed a little bit about what you're going to do, how to implement things with people maybe? Or I know our schooling started with, what did it be, biochem, anatomy, structure, you know? But what's your thoughts? Like, has your thought changed at all? Or did you come in thinking, hey, I'm going to practice a certain way and you just started to mold that way? Yeah, so I've changed an enormous amount and I think that's really important.

I came in with one mindset from all the shadowing I did previously and, you know, kind of the conceptions I already had about chiropractors and what they might do and blah, blah, blah, including the ones I liked, the ones that were good. And so, I came in with one notion and I was like, all right, like, this is the best stuff. This is what I'm going to do. Like, any club that talks about this, I'm going to be at. And I was exposed to way more than that and I had to take a conscious step back and be like, okay, this is kind of going against what I originally thought. Why is it going against what I thought?

Let me evaluate this and let me make a decision for myself. And I've kind of let those scenarios really guide me along where I'm at in school at this point. So, I think I've changed a lot. I came in with one mindset of this is what I'm going to do, this is where I'm going to be. And I feel as though I'm not total 180, but maybe like a 160. What's maybe like one example of something that kind of changed your thought? You're like, holy shit, I got to – I don't know if I can treat people anymore. I got to revamp everything. Oh, my God. That's kind of a complex answer for me because I would have to figure it completely out on my own.

But like – so, I'll try to answer that to the best of my ability. I came in and I was like, all right, chiropractors are like the sports docs, which we are and that's great. But I was like sports docs, like soft tissue, like on the field, whatever. That was like where my head was at and I didn't realize how clinical we could really be to a certain extent. I kind of thought we were just over in this zone and that was our zone. And I was like, all right, I'm going to be doing these cool rehab stuff with people. If someone comes in with an achy hamstring, I'm going to ART the hamstring. I see the manual in the back over there.

Oh, no, no, no, no. I promise it's not here. Not against anyone who does that. Everything has a place. Everything has a place, right? And that's kind of what I'm getting to. But my mindset was like, yeah, soft tissue, everyone, you know, taping, cool exercise and that's it. And at this point, like my thought process has grown to think soft tissue as a kind of a last, not last resort, but kind of low on the totem pole. And I think way more nervous now, like I rule out any nerve contribution that there could possibly be before looking. Because, and this is something I learned through taking my neurology courses was, you know, muscles are stupid.

Like they do what they're told from the brain and from the nervous system. And to look there first, you're missing so many other steps. And so I kind of went into school. So when it's a hamstring type feeling, whatever it might be, I'm looking straight at the hamstring doing ART on it to let's take a step back. Let's observe their movement. Let's rule out their spine. Let's go farther downstream, rule all the nerve contribution. Let's find an accurate diagnosis. And then let's let the diagnosis determine what we do instead of taking our favorite technique and throwing it right at it. Yeah. That's kind of how I've changed in a couple sentences.

Cool. Yeah, that's, it's actually just the podcast that's going right before yours. I was talking about C5 radiculopathy, basically like periscapular pain, things like that. And I go through three case studies and I was trying to frame it as like there's a first aid period, there's a supportive period, a loading one. And then usually if you implement one a little too soon or too late, then it's, there's, there's some haphazardness that happens on the patient's parts or flare-ups or whatever. So I, I talked about tissue work in there as well because I had the same come from, it was like I go into school and like I would tissue work and ART this stuff and it would feel better, but then it would come back.

And, and I'm, and I'm down with doing the tissue work, like I said in there, but I, now I'll tell patients that when they come in that they have, like, what do you want? And they're like, well, I want tissue work and this and this and that. And I've lost patients in the past because I'm like, I'm not going to do that to this thing. And now I'll say like, look, it might be needed at some point, just not right now. Let's unmuddy the water and then what parts might still need it might reveal themselves. But, um, so I'm kind of the same as you with that. Uh, I didn't, I didn't think, I didn't, I think it took me years out of school to finally figure that out, you know, but, um, that's cool.

So you are now making a bunch of videos that are, I don't want to say silly, but they're good. They're entertaining. Um, so your, your, your handle on Instagram is rehab fix, right? Yep. Yes, it is. At what point did you finally decide that I'm just going to make a shit ton of videos and there's no stopping point to doing this ever? Oh man. Um, the moment I kind of realized, let's, let's say about a year ago, I started making just little videos here and there of like no professional camera, no mics, just throwing my iPhone on whatever could hold it. And I think I was talking about like foot mobility stuff and I, in the very first video I made, I made it just cause I was like, this is important.

So many people ask me questions that could be related to this video. Why don't I just make a video to help educate my friends on social media or Facebook or whatever. And then also whenever anyone asks me a question about this topic and I'm not there to show it, I can just refer them to my video. I'm scratching my itch, just like you've talked about. Um, so I started making those and I was kind of like, you know, this is kind of fun. Like I, uh, I was getting into instructing for R2P at the club level at school and I was, and I was, uh, I was kind of getting used to teaching and instructing there as I was learning.

So I kind of noticed that that was fun for me and I really, really do enjoy teaching. That's a, that's a passion of mine at whatever level it may be now or in the future. So I was like, you know what? These videos are kind of fun. I got to teach people something that they might not know. I got to, you know, scratch my own itch and whatnot. Um, so then I kind of just started making a few more, a few more, and then I was like, all right, I'm going to put out like maybe a video a week, maybe I'm just in the gym. And then I started realizing that a social media following of any kind is a giant foundation for any business.

It doesn't matter what the business is. It literally will supplement anything at all. And I looked at what the other really good docs are doing and most of them have some kind of an influence. And I was like, you know what, no better time to start doing these videos than now, because I can mess up right now. I can make myself look silly and I can screw things up so that by the time I actually have a DR next to my name in the future, I'm much more fine tuned. I'm saying the right stuff, not being as silly. And I have a pretty professional product. And, uh, I kind of just rolled with it from there was doing every like, you know, two, three days posting something.

And I, like I said, I listened to your podcast with Doc Gen Fit and I was like, all right, it's time to try to try to figure out something that's going to hook more people. That's going to sound more professional. So I changed my name from just Grant Elliott to Rehab Fix, got a logo made, got an intro made. And now I'm just, uh, spending all day every day on Instagram pretty much. I bet your heart just like, as soon as you said that your heart just dropped. It's like, oh my God, I got to stop doing this or just go full bore. Yes. Oh my gosh. It was, that was a tough choice. And, uh, my wife helps me film a lot of stuff actually.

Um, I'll probably make her listen to this later. She's your model in the videos right now. She's my model in the videos. And when I don't have a model in the videos, she's my cameraman. Oh. And, uh, oh my gosh, if I didn't have her, I'd be screwed. And she's, uh, she's so dang patient with me. So, um, if you're listening, baby, I love you. Thank you so much because, uh, I, I need, I need her so much. Oh my gosh. So it's turned into quite the operation. I got my backdrop. I got my studio equipment, got my studio lights, going to reorder a new camera soon. And I'm just like, whatever, let's just try this out.

If it works, great. If it doesn't, at least I tried. And at least I have some content, you know? Yeah, they're really, they're really good. Um, and you know, I think that, uh, I'd spoken to another student before and they're like, what, how do we get speaking? Like, uh, how do we get speaking practice? I'm like, the great thing about being a student, I think is that you, you can't get any patients really, like you're not supposed to, except for into the student clinic. Right. But it's, it's almost like there's more purity in it. It's like, I'm not trying to get anything from these people. I'm just trying to educate them.

And in your videos, you don't even say your name anymore, you know? And, uh, because you're, you can't put doctor in front, right? So, and I think that's what Jen's thing was, is she just gave the shit out of it for like three years and all of a sudden people liked her, you know? Um, and I think that, did you hear the one with, uh, uh, Aaron Horschig? Squat University? Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. He's the same way. He just seems to like it. Like, I don't personally like it. And I'll be honest. I don't like it. I like this. Oh yeah. Yeah, you do. But I don't, I don't like posting pictures, honestly, except for about steak.

And boating. Oh my God. Your, your tomahawk videos on your Instagram story, just, they kill me. I'm like, oh my God, I knew that so bad. Dude, there's, uh, so during, uh, so this is going to release actually on January 2nd. So I've now learned that during, uh, Thanksgiving time. So I tried to have people that were going to do three tomahawks that day. And I went to Costco. We got them here. We went to the second Costco. They didn't have it there. Um, so I went to Costco twice. I went to two butcheries. No one had a fucking tomahawk steak. And so I had to settle for a tri-tip, um, settle. But it was still, it was still, it was still good.

So we had crab legs and tri-tip, but I wanted the tomahawk steaks. So great. Yeah. How to settle. You got to settle. So, so, uh, your, your videos do, um, I see some of the, some of the topics where you did silly exercises, hip orientation with squatting, debunking myths with deadlifting. Um, I especially like the tight hip flexor one actually, cause I've noticed that it seems like you're not necessarily telling the people that it's wrong what they're doing. Like go ahead and stretch your hip flexor, but maybe do it this way and then go walk. Or there was the rotator cuff one where it's like, if you choose to do that, that's cool.

Maybe we improve this, this, this way too. So I'm surprised that you're like, cause a lot of people like to bash other techniques. You're just kind of letting their belief happen and then adding to it. It looks like. Yeah, for sure. And Hey, oh my gosh, as a trainer and just as anyone who's a fitness enthusiast in general that spends a lot of time in the gym, um, once you kind of become aware of these movements, you see them, you see them all the time. They stand out like a sore thumb and you're just like, no, stop it. And you want to go over and say something, but you know, you can't because then they'll feel offended in some way.

So that's when I go, Hey, you know what? I'll make a video and then I'll talk to them at a later time. They, Hey, you should check out my channel. And then maybe they'll learn through that. That's a good, it's a good software. Yeah. How many times, by the way, how many times you asked someone if they need a spot this month? Hey bro. I probably only maybe a couple of times to be honest. I don't really, I don't really like people jumping in and asking me stuff cause I get in the zone when I work out. So I don't really do that to other people, but every once in a while, every once in a while, if I see someone trying a movement that I can tell, um, it's pretty new to them and they're trying to work on something specific, I will go over and be like, Hey, like, are you trying to, I don't know, target your glute meds or your glutes with this specific exercise?

Like, yeah, I saw this somewhere. I'm trying to like figure it out. Then in a scenario like that, I'll be like, Hey, that's awesome. This is my background. Let me see if I can help. And they're usually receptive, but typically I try to stay out of, I try to stay out of other people's ways in the gym. Well, nice. So you're looking for nonverbal communication. Uh, I mean, ideally. You're looking, you're looking at like, like the eyebrows are always up like this. You're thinking about how to do that clamshell. Yeah, for sure. They're like, how is this shown again? Like, Hey, I think I might have that memorized actually.

Yeah. Um, I saw that on your, on your feed today, actually you showed your studio, uh, is for all the people attempting to make some videos, how hard is it? What was the biggest barrier you think? Well, it's, it's tough to say because for me, I have a background in, we'll say loose filming and editing. Um, due to when I was younger, I used to skate a lot and I was filming and editing skate videos throughout a lot of my childhood. So I've actually been using the same software I used then. It's a, it's Adobe Premiere Pro. Um, I'm just using an updated version. So I kind of have a foundation. So I already knew, like, I know how to cut, cut stuff.

I know how to add effects. I know how to create titles. I already knew how to do all of that. All I needed was just a professional setup. So for people that are considering, Hey, I want to start making videos. I, I would encourage everyone to start making videos for the numerous reasons we've discussed. You learn how to talk to people, right? You learn how to speak, you, uh, teach yourself cause you're researching topics you want to talk about. Um, but you don't need anything special. If you have an iPhone, you're good to go. You can start, you can start making videos. Oh yeah. You don't, you don't need anything special.

If you want something special, then find some really good deal on Craigslist like I did. Um, and order some cheap paper backdrop like I did, which was $80 and then get the stand for it, get some basic lights and just shoot from there. But by no means is my setup something amazing. It's just, we'll say cost efficient, but it works. Yeah. How much was your lighting kit? Mine was like a hundred bucks. I think just for two lights. I got three lights. See, I see. I regret that. I got the two and I'm like, Oh, it should have done the three. So I have two box lights and I think the two box lights with the stands and everything, I think it was, Oh my God, I think it was only like 80 or 70.

It was not, it was not very much. And they're legit lights. Like they're, they're awesome. It's all you need. There was one video I watched back in the day. Well, I think it was on YouTube. It was Newman films, two ends, I think. But they, so they, they did all these short films and, um, they didn't hit, never hits. They never hit movies or anything. It's like five minutes just being creative. And they did, uh, one where they showed the effects of lighting, um, forward, backwards, top lighting, halo effect. And I thought it was really interesting. So I'm like, shit, I got to get lights. Like, like there's no lights on me right now.

We're talking, but it's cause we're not going to use this. But, um, I think lighting is more important than, than anything really. Yeah. It will change the quality of your video so much. Like when I use my same camera and I'm just like in the gym filming something, the quality is vastly reduced compared to when I'm in my studio with my lights up and everything. And I got the exposure all right. And yeah, they really do make a big difference and they're so cheap. So it's like, why not? Why not? Why? I still remember some of the videos that I've seen, like, I like to investigate whether the videos are working well, you know, and, uh, industry or not industry, it doesn't really matter.

And, um, so I'll look at it. I'm like, this is grainy. This one's out of focus. And if you look at like things like say like the office, people love the office and it's there, there's movement in the cameras. They're hiding behind shit, you know? And like, uh, they're out of focus and people still watch it. And, uh, I know they do it for effect, but I don't know if they have to be perfect, you know, and then still, they still, still make a dent and have a following, you know? Oh yeah. Huge. So what, what was your, what was your best trick with skateboarding then? Let's, did you get, did you get sponsored?

I think is the important part. So we'll say this. I got sponsored by a, a board company that had like just started locally. So they were trying to get some local skaters who were, they thought were good enough to, um, to hook up and could kind of rep them. And I was a part of that initial crew, although it didn't last super long. It was kind of just like some guy that was like, Hey, let's get this, let's get this rolling and see what happens. And unfortunately it didn't last super long. So what we can say I was sponsored for a very, for a very short period. Um, my best trick though, do you still, how long did you skate for?

Oh God. Um, I had to be from like probably 10 to 18 maybe. Oh, okay. Okay. So you're pretty, you're pretty good too then I imagine. Uh, I mean, I wouldn't say good. We never, I never got a sponsorship or anything. We can learn, we can land some, some series with consistency, but. Okay. Heck yeah. So my specialty was the shove it. But not the pop shovel, pop it and it's a game over. Oh, sorry. It's turning on you. Sorry. Yeah. It was pop shove it. Shove it's, shove it's just on the ground, right? Yeah. Wheels don't really leave the ground very much or the tail doesn't pop. Right. There was, there was the sound.

There was the pop shove it. One time I got a crooked grind for about 10 feet and I about lost my shit. Oh, I really liked crooked grinds actually. I did those a lot on the box, like up to the Euro at the skate park. You know, I really, I was a big fan of crooked grinds. Um, I skated, I skated from 11 to about 16 and, uh, um, I think the biggest stairs that I did, I think I ollied like an 11 or 12 stairs, something like that. It takes commitment. Yeah. But were they, were they ADA compliant though? Were they big or the short steps? Uh, no, no, no. They were, they were compliant. I swear. Yeah. They're actually like many steps, like half an inch each one.

I'm like, no, I only like 30 stairs. I swear. And, um, anyway, uh, oh gosh, I lost my train of thought, but regardless, uh, I remember one trick, it was one of the last good tricks I'd filmed actually. Cause I took a big hiatus from skating and filming. And then my buddies who were still skating every, every dang day, they're like, yo, Grant, and I was the filmer guy, right? I was the filmer guy. So they're like, Hey, the local skate shop is called rise skateboard shop. Uh, they were putting on like a little film festival and a competition between like different crews, you know, making their own tapes.

And they're like, dude, we gotta, we gotta create a video and enter this, enter this film, this film festival. And I was like, heck yeah, I'm down. Let's do it. So I started kind of practicing more and kind of getting my feet back. And I filmed, I filmed almost the entire video. Some other people contributed, uh, contributed, I mean, to some of the clips, but I filmed almost the whole thing. And then finally I was like, all right, someone else take the damn camera. Someone film me doing something. And so it was once again up the Euro and there was like a, you know, like a grind box of the Euro and I was riding switch and I did the switch one 80 to regular five Oh, to front shove out five Oh, nice.

That's fun. That's sponsor worthy. Really? Hey, that was a good trick. I was, I was good at that one. I practiced it a lot. Um, so that was kind of like my at the skate park, you know, some good guys roll up, you're trying to impress them. Right. It's like, realistically, you do that trick all day long, but you kind of just bust it out and they're like, damn, that was good. And then you're like, all right, yeah, I got to go now. Yeah. So they talk about you for the next 30 minutes. You're like, God, that guy. Yeah. That was so easy for him. Yeah. And then you're like, yeah, but I can't even kickflip.

So. Yeah. You got to impress the young kids too. Um, the, so then I think the big question is what was the name of the crew? Oh gosh. And what was the name of the skate video actually? Cause you had to label it and you just feel skate, right. Or did you put an eight in it? No. There's a, well, there was no word skating it at all, but only the cool kids put the skate, as you know, skate floor life. Uh, the, the video, my friend picked the name is my best friend growing up. His name's, uh, his name's Andrew just got to see him a few days ago on Thanksgiving break. And, uh, you know, skaters are kind of weird.

We just kind of like say weird stuff and do weird things. Cause we don't really care. Um, and we were sitting there and we were like, what do we name this freaking video? And he goes, uh, Federation for nature. I'm like, what does that even mean? He's like, I don't know. It's artistic. Yeah. He was like, just put an acronym for it. So we just called it FFN and that's all we called it. We didn't think any more about it. And that was the name of the video. Oh, but it won by the way. Oh, it did. Yeah. It won. So. Can we get that posted on your, on your story there? I'm sure you still, is it a digital copy?

It's on YouTube. There's a YouTube link for it. Oh, that'd be great. Yeah. I'll send it to you. I should. And we all got a, I'm going to write that down. YouTube link for skating. I need to make sure to get that from you. Yes. You'll, you'll get it. And we all were able to pick any board, any deck I should say of our choosing from the skate shop. So that was sweet. We all walked out of there with some boards and that was, that was a, that was a good day. You just, you just reminded me of, there was, there was a one, one store, one skate shop that put on a little event years, years, years and years back.

So we heard there's going to be deck tosses, right? So you just go there and there's that mob of people. So I forgot what it was like to be in a deck and merch toss. Holy shit. You just, you just fight. It's dangerous. Yeah. That is so dangerous. My friend got a board though. I was surprised. You mean a board like stuck in his forehead? No, he caught it somehow. I think he, I think he'd like people dropped it or he yanked it out of their hands after they were fighting over it. Oh my gosh. A quick change of direction with impulse. Oh yeah. Oh my gosh. I've seen, I've literally seen people who were like fighting for one merch and then they toss a deck and just get knocked in the face with the other deck and they like cut their eyelids and they're still digging forward out of the blood and oh my gosh.

You know, there's no better external cue than pull the board. Pull the board. I love that. That's awesome. I don't know what we use. Actually, there was a, there was a lady that came in that she's a, we were, we were, she had a, she had a fracture in her foot. So I was rehabbing her for some back stuff and I wanted to do some anti-rotational things. And so I just, I hope, I held onto a rope and I said, take the rope away from me. So she's sitting her feet, she does some pulling. She's a kindergarten teacher and she's like, Hey, I should, she'd been so excited about her care and her recovery. So she's like, Hey, I should get the kids to do this.

And so she sends me this video of all these kids like trying to pull an object, but like one is clearly winning the, winning the other one's not trying. And I, and I was like, make it something they want, you know, like, like a deck. Pull it. Yeah, that would, that would be, you'd have to be creative to find the perfect object that like wouldn't tear, but also like strong enough and they'd be like, yeah, I want this. Can't use like a teddy bear or anything. I was going to, I was going to say a puppy. Oh my God. Yeah. Do you, uh, what do you, what do you think your next, what are your next videos going to be?

And how far, actually, how far are you lined up for your other videos that you're already done with and they're sitting, just waiting? Yeah. So last night, actually, we filmed a whole bunch more. We were filming for, uh, I think three and a half to four hours last night. And I got, I think I got 16 in. So I have enough videos for the next two and a half weeks. Cause I'll probably throw in a couple of infographics or, or something in there, or I'll film a couple of random things at the gym. So I probably have two and a, two and a half to three weeks worth of footage saved up that I'll be editing and posting over the course of the time.

And then when that's up, I'll have to go, Hey, I, so I have like a three man crew, like one of them's my wife. Right. And then the, the guy that's filming when I'm using my wife as a model, he's my good friend named Alec and he's in my triester also. And he's, he started a little, um, a specific swimming, like rehab, uh, coaching kind of platform because he's combining his rehab and, and clinical expertise with the swimming community because he's kind of saw a, um, a lack within that. So he's trying to be kind of specific towards swimming. He called the H2 optimal. And so he's like, Hey, I need videos and you all have the equipment.

So I'll film for you. And then you film for me. So we got a nice little, a nice little setup. So we went over there and we filmed about 16 videos for me. And I think we filmed like seven or eight for him. So I'm nice and stocked up until we do it again in three weeks. That's nice. It's hard. It's hard to get a crew. Um, and, uh, so actually how, what's his filming skill like for you? Did you have to teach him? Cause you got a big background with it. Yeah, that was, oh my gosh. Uh, we have some, some, uh, not so funny bloopers from the first round of films we ever did with the studio because yeah, I have background with it.

Um, from all my time filming skate videos, I learned how to like sit down, watch a skateboard video and be like, okay, how does this shot look so good? And I learned how to figure out exactly how to mimic how those shots looked. And because I've already developed that skill, when I started watching Instagram videos of people putting on similar content that I am, I was able to be like, okay, this is what they're doing. This is what I have to do. Got it. Yeah. So now my buddy, I love him, but he has no background with this stuff. And so the very first time, uh, I was like, oh yeah, just, just like move the camera to my cues, move it to what I'm pointing at.

And he's kind of just like standing there like a statue, like not moving. Right, right. And I'm like, this is gonna be a long night. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, we were, we were teaching each other as we went for sure. Probably a lot of editing on your part then on your videos, but not his, his are just like, like print it. That's it. I mean, I would, I would like to think so every once in a while I'll be like, oh no, like I messed that up. I'd be like, what are you talking about? It looked perfect. And I'm like, no, no, no, no. You see this like 0.5 seconds right here. I shook a little bit. We got to redo it.

Yeah. That is right. But it's, it's good. Uh, last night was way better than a couple of weeks ago. So, so he's learning and I'm getting better at getting in the right positions too. So we both work together. Yeah, that is, that is good. I like the idea of like just reverse engineering what's already working for other people. Um, I'll, I'll do the same thing with watching things as well. Like I, I don't have any video background. I just have made enough where I can, I can think about it at least, but I've been looking at like delivery on, on people. I'm like, why are these comedian, comedians telling the same story and everyone laughs every time?

And, uh, so I was looking up, actually, I was going to read a book pretty soon about how to tell stories better or more engaging so we can really get to the, the point of the story versus ramble around. So that's my effort in communication, but I'm sure that's going to blend into a video pretty soon here. Oh yeah. Nice. Yeah. For sure. What's, uh, what's the next topic you're going to hit? Are you doing them in clusters? Like I see a couple of randomness about it. Are you going to hit? So it is super random. Like I'll, I'll be at school. It's so, it's so random. It's so random. I'll be at school and people will just bring up different topics or questions and I'll sit there and I go, I'm going to make this a video and I'll go to my, go to my phone.

And I'll put it in my notes and I just kind of accumulate notes or I'll see something in the gym. Like the people doing that crappy rotator cuff warm up and I'll go, I got to make a video about that and I'll put it in my notes. So then I just have this long list of notes and, uh, and I'll, and last night I was like, all right, we're just going to film all of these. But luckily this time I remembered to bring some wardrobe changes. So I'm not wearing the exact same outfit. That's a good idea. Three weeks of videos. That's a good idea. I made that, I made that mistake on my last batch. If you look, I'm wearing the exact same thing and my wife is wearing the exact same thing over two weeks.

So I brought like four shirts and two pants and I was changing every four videos and it was, it was funny. But yeah, the topics, no set topics. It's totally, it's totally random. I have numerous more for like low back pain with certain exercises and how to modify. Um, but once again, still not demonizing movement. Right, right. Um, but it's, it really is, it really is all over. It goes from training the feet to reduce pain while running up into releasing suboccipitals with low cross ball. If you get tension headaches, it's, it's really all over. Yeah. It reminds me of, uh, do you, do you follow, uh, chiro strength?

Scott Dunaway. His was just like, so he's telling me, he's like, I just, uh, just a big old brain dump in there. And, uh, the shitty part about Instagram is you can't categorize really, right? Um, I don't know if you're saving these as actually this, you know, YouTube style or not, because you can categorize them in there. Are you, you saving them that way or are they only square? So I'm saving them as YouTube style. So it's, this is actually really tricky because, um, I had to figure out how Instagram would crop it because I couldn't get the settings to crop it in Adobe, uh, either because I couldn't figure it out or because it doesn't do it.

So I, for the while there I was exporting, uploading a video and I would have to do that like six or seven times until I got the framing, right. And then I just saved these lines that you can't see. So I, so I know how wide I can make it. Uh, but they do save on my computer and YouTube. And then when I export to Instagram, I know exactly how it's going to look in Instagram, but you are right. I need to start transferring everything to a YouTube channel. And I was trying to debate on if I should make YouTube versions of those same videos, like take a one minute video and talk about it more for three to four minutes, maybe, or just upload the exact same video onto YouTube.

What do you think I should do? Uh, you know, I think that, uh, I know I've had, I've had a couple, I've had a bunch of experiences on YouTube and I feel like it's changed a lot over time. There's this one video I did. It was 15 seconds. I think I got 70,000 views on this. People love that shit. I didn't say a word. I just showed one thing. That's it. I didn't even say it was four, but there's other ones that are like the, the itch I'm trying to scratch on, say there's chondromalacea patella. I kind of want to talk about pathology and this and this and that, and some correctives and then some tissue work and blah, blah, blah.

So it's 30 minutes, but I basically take sections of like, this is one exercise I would use for it this way or so on. Um, so for some of those I've actually taken and keep in mind, I don't do any, a lot of Instagram videos anymore, but some of them I wouldn't actually talk or I'd take my face out of it because then I can, I can talk over it and I can frame it better in that entire video. But I don't know. Like I think YouTube audiences are a little different than Instagram. Instagrams are quick, you know, like I think yours are perfect because I actually, your intro might be a little long even for their, but I like it.

Yeah. I was thinking that cause I think it's like six seconds or something or six or seven seconds. And I was like, this is really long for an Instagram video. Yeah. So, I mean, I like it. It's probably perfect for a YouTube video. Um, but I think YouTube though, if you think about like the mentality they have to do to get in there, usually they're looking up how to stretch a hip flexor. So they'll, I think they'd give you a little bit more attention versus you Instagram, you're scrolling and it has to catch your attention. So I don't know how long, I mean, you can just keep rambling on those videos I imagine and just, just cut it where you think the most important part is for Instagram and keep the rest.

That way you don't have to, I mean, your, your videos are great with here's how to mobilize your hip flexor. If you're sitting all day, that would be a great three minute video for YouTube. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. So I need to start doing that though. Cause I just created a Facebook page that isn't super fancy yet. So I'm like transferring everything from Instagram to Facebook and now I know I need to do that with YouTube and it's like, man, should I do that with Twitter also? And it's getting a lot to manage, but I don't really know how Twitter works all that much. I'm not very proficient with it.

I don't either. I think most people though, don't they kind of stick to one platform or two and then they just, they hammer at that. Um, and then you drive traffic into wherever you want them to go. Yeah. Yep. I, I still got a lot to learn, man. But yeah, you're right. I think Kevin Christie did talk about that. Like finding those, the strong ones and sticking with those. Yeah. And I think he, he's done a good job with like, people are actually interactive on his Facebook page and. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. He's killing it. Shit. I mean, you just got to get people to interact more on your Instagram.

You're set. You stay there. But what would, Hey, there you go. But what would you do if Instagram became no more? I'd probably cry. I cry a little bit because of how much effort I put into it already for sure. Um, but I mean, I would probably just start living on. On YouTube, I would imagine. I mean, I don't know what else. I don't know what else they would, there would be. There's not really a substitute. Yeah. Facebook, I guess. But that's kind of not the best for these videos. Yeah. Well, what do you plan out? Where do you plan on taking this? Because, uh, good question. You could be, you could be a doctor and fit.

You could just be someone who just treats someone in clinic and you, you're, these are drivers to your business. Yeah. So, um, of course we can all, we can all hope and dream, right? And this is just a hope and dream and whatever it evolves into is whatever it was meant to be. Um, but my hopes and dreams for this would be, I had initially thought, okay, I'm going to be practicing somewhere in the future and I'm going to be treating and helping people in my community, but what about all the other communities that I can't reach out to who have either tried to provide her and either wasn't successful or it just didn't work out for some reason.

And they're kind of lost and don't know what else to do and don't really know where to go. I want to be able to help those people somehow too, or at least, at least give them guidance in some way. So I was like, I need to create something completely separate from, I'll call it doctor stuff, um, so that I can try to reach more people. So, um, rehab is kind of just a buzzword for people. And with fix, I'm always thinking about like, uh, you know, kind of it's, it's not the connotation of, um, like to fix something, but it's like, get your fix, like get your addiction. Like I got to get my fix. And I was thinking, all right, yuck, you got to get, you got to get your daily fix of movement or daily, you know, fix of rehab or whatever it is for you so that you can become empowered over your own health and, um, you know, take control and just be empowered and motivated in general.

So I was like, all right, I'll just do rehab fix and do a short and kind of buzzy for Instagram. So I was like, all right, it works. So ultimately I would like this to grow into whatever it ends up being, you know, not a, not a big deal, whatever happens with it so that I can just help reach some form of population that might not be able to get reached from anyone else and maybe give them guidance and give them help in some way. And ideally if it ends up building into what I would like it to be, submerging rehab fix within different communities and then doing sort of like, um, just basic one day seminars on how to keep yourself out of the doctor's office.

So instead of doing clinician seminars over here, teaching like neurocentric approaches to different pains and whatever, I can do a one day seminar with a group of 200 people at a local fitness center or something and be like, Hey, like, you know, I'm a qualified physician, but I'm going to teach you how to never have to come see me again. And here's how you do it. Cause I don't care about making money. I just want to, I just want to help people and it, you know, it'll drive some income too, but I just want to empower people as much as possible. And I think that would be a great avenue for me to do so.

Nice. A whole seminar in demonizing lumbar flexion. Oh my gosh. I know it's tough. I kind of, I kind of got myself into a little bit of a swamp with certain terms I've said already, but Hey, like I said, um, I don't think I know everything and I know I'll probably look back at a year from now at my current videos and like, you know, I was saying this and I don't really agree with that anymore. I should probably change it to this, but I look at that as a positive because if I don't look back every year during my life and realize something needs to change, then I don't think I'm doing anything right.

So I should always be looking back and realizing, okay, I used to say this, not entirely true. Let's say this now and always be changing. I think that's how it should be everywhere. So I expect that to happen. And to be fair, you only have like one minute videos, so they want more information. You can put it all on YouTube or something. It's tough. It is. It is very tough. And, and my website, I'm going to have a website some point in the future to kind of hold all of this for me. Um, so I started like a square space. I'm trying to figure that out myself and man, that's tough. I just want to pay somebody to do it.

Yeah. Um, if you want, if we can talk off air with, um, one day about websites, if you want, um, I might have some suggestions for you. Yeah, that would be awesome. Yeah. Um, yeah. What else do you want to cover? Anything? Hmm. Uh, in regards to my goals with my Instagram and stuff, that pretty much covers, that pretty much covers that for the most part, I think. Um, other specifics like, uh, I don't know. I mean, I'm assuming this is going to be cut out. Oh no, it won't. It won't. I don't get it. Oh my God. I don't, I don't cut any of it. The pressure is so on right now. Geez. It's all right.

Well, it's, it's always like you take the floor. Um, but you know how easy it is to just do a full clip. So I'm, I, like I said off air earlier, I like, I think people like to see normal people. You're not perfect. I'm not perfect. We should keep this. Okay. That's, that's, that's fair. That's fair. Um, I don't know anything about like school or transition to practice or anything like that or, well, you know, I think they would want to hear, I don't know. You know, I, all I can tell you is my observation so far from students and maybe you can tell me the other side because you're a student. So every student that I've encountered so far, except for one has been very hooked into the idea that they are, they don't, number one, they don't, they don't, they don't feel confident that they can actually do everything right when they get out.

And for some reason I felt like I could, which probably was a bad thing, but I was able to start my own practice with, with under the roof of another doc to say, if I didn't know something, then I can ask him and he has more clinical experience. Second thing was that it's, I feel like they're very, they want to know a lot of clinical shit, which is great. But, um, like if you already know everything that you know, you can probably help out a lot of people. So just start. Um, but they didn't care. They didn't seem to care that much or be scared, like scared to death about starting a business or finding the job.

I mean, half the shit you're making on Instagram, it's basically a portfolio of how good you are and that you can demonstrate that you can communicate. Exactly. So why don't students do this? I, I don't know. I think a lot, I think a lot of people aren't super comfortable with putting themselves out there. They're going to think about, um, how people are judging their videos or what they're saying, or they're afraid that they don't know enough yet. And it's not that I'm a, I'm not afraid of those things, but like, I just don't really care. And I expect that it's going to happen. Like, I expect that there's going to be some brilliant minds out there seeing what I'm saying and big, Oh, this kid doesn't know what he's talking about, but that's okay.

Because someday I'll learn and someday I will. Um, so I just don't care about that. And I, and I see the importance, exactly what you said of building a portfolio showing, Hey, I have drive in these different avenues. Um, we can work together cause you know, you mix your, your strengths and weaknesses. Um, and I don't know why more students don't do it because I think a lot of students out there know way more than they realize that they do. At least the ones that are really, you know, working hard and it's like, Hey, you can already be building your name and building your reputation. Like just do it now and it could open so many doors for you.

Um, and this right now is, is evident of that because I would not be talking to you right now if I hadn't been working really hard on Instagram and kind of networking with you and getting my name in your ear. So this has already brought me so many opportunities just along with pushing myself really hard in school and networking. So, um, I, I encourage everyone to do it no matter what the profession is. Yeah. I agree. See, that was a good closing. Yeah. Is that, is that a closing? It could be. Um, by the way, your dog didn't make a sound. She didn't make a sound. I think she's still, I haven't even looked back there.

She's still sleeping right there. She is just passed out. Did you tranquilize her? Does she have narco-alachie? Oh my gosh. I didn't know. She was playing a whole bunch last night. We actually were being pretty neglectful of her while we were filming our videos. And, you know, we forget that she's pretty well trained, but we forget that she's still young. Um, and so we just like locked her upstairs with like two other dogs while we were filming everything. And like I said, we ended up being like three, four hours and we're like, Oh my God, like our dog is upstairs in a stranger's house. She's never been in for like four hours straight.

So she's pretty tuckered out from, from freaking, from freaking out all night. But, um, I used to train my dog to try to pee on everything in strangers' houses. That's, that sounds like a great way to make friends. That was mainly my sister's house. Okay. That's, that's fair. Yeah. But only there. Right. Only keep, keep the pee in the family. Um, how can, how can everyone reach you? You're probably thinking, oh, that was all. I thought that we were done. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm, I can, I can talk a while. I get excited when I talk. Yeah. I will have to go in a second though. I probably was a patient standing outside the door.

No way. How much time, how much time do you have? Um, I told him five minutes ago, but I was running 10 minutes behind. So I got about two minutes. Two minutes. Okay. Um, well just real quick shout out. I want to give a shout out to R2P as a whole and my crew at Logan, because I've learned so much through R2P and they've, they've given me so much and I'm getting to know people even more. And I was recently offered a position with them as the national club president, um, because Matt Ward just graduated. So I get to take over that spot and I'm seriously honored to have that opportunity and learn even more and network even more.

So I just want to give a big, uh, hats off to them and encourage any student that is at Cairo school that has an R2P organization to absolutely attend and never miss it. Cause it's hundreds of thousands dollars worth of information for free. And, uh, we've grown it so much. When I became a rep, I was with, um, uh, Kyle Utley. He's a good friend of mine. He's a class below me. We both became reps at the same time. And we both kind of have good marketing minds. And we were like, let's, uh, let's figure out how to build this thing. And we went from averaging like seven students, every, every club when, when we first came on to averaging like 50.

Wow. Really good. And oh my gosh. Yeah. It's been phenomenal. So the R2P guys are just phenomenal. I got to give them a shout out and everything I've learned through them in, in Marianne and, you know, her with the opportunity for me. And, um, so that's, so that's been great. So if anyone out there is listening to this and you're getting ready to go to Cairo school, absolutely do not miss out on, on R2P wherever you're at, because you will be far better for it. I think the biggest, I think the biggest question there, I'll probably think in, if I can go back to my schooling days, is there lunch there?

Is lunch provided? So yeah, there's a cafeteria. Oh no. At the R2P in the lunch. No, no, no, no, no, no. They can bring their lunches and eat it there, but we do not, we do not pay for anyone's food. We would always go to the, the ones that had the food first. It was, it was important. That's crazy. I didn't know they'd ever did that anywhere. They did that at LACC or SCU. So sometimes it's like, Oh, there's going to be pizza in O20. Okay. We're going to go over there real, like go be there first. Oh, the pizza, the free pizza. Yeah. And you get it from Costco. So it doesn't cost that much at all.

Oh my gosh. Well, well you hear, you hear what they say about the clubs that offer the free pizzas now, right? What? Nothing. I'm not going to go any farther. Oh, okay. They're trying, they're trying to hook you. They're trying to hook you for, for certain reasons. I kind of, I kind of, I kind of stay, stay aware of those ones. Remember, you got to, you got to bait people. You got to give them what they want and then switch them a little bit, but in an ethical way. So you give them pizza and you switch them with corrective exercise. If it was with corrective exercise, I'd be all for it. Right.

Maybe, maybe when they come in, they have to baby crawl to get the pizza. Oh, there's an obstacle course. Yeah. Exercise for pizza. It's just like Planet Fitness, right? You can just do that whole, you ever see that video? It's a, I think it's a, you know, FMS movement screens and they set up all these, like, they're just doing, they were crawling along the beams and going over and under the hurdles. Yeah. Just do that. And when they walk in, that's the way to the pizza. The ground is hot lava. Do not touch it. Oh my gosh. That would be amazing. Someday. Someday we'll implement it and I'll film it.

I'll make a video out of it. Oh, I can't wait. Okay. Thanks so much for being on. It was great. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much for having me. It's, it's been awesome and it's an honor to be on your show as well. I've been a long time listener. I've learned a lot from you, from the guests you've had on and it's pretty crazy to, to, to be a part of it. Oh yeah. You're the man. I like it. Thanks. You're, you're doing way better than the Instagram shit than I ever will. So you'll, you'll be, you'll be at 10 K before you know it. Hey, my, my goal is July of next year. Yeah. You can make it a year.

Let's see if that happens. Make it a, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll, I'll, yeah, I'll give myself a year. Yeah. It'd be nice. All right, guys, that was Grant Elliott. Again, you can find him at Rehab Fix on Instagram. And as he mentioned, he's going to have some YouTube stuff going on too. Any links that we talked about are going to be included in the show notes. You can find them on P2 Sports Care. That is P the number two, or P the letter two, the number of sports is plural, care.com. There's a search bar right there. You just put in 120, which is going to be Grant's one, or just put in Grant or Elliott with two L's and two T's, I think.

Grant, if I got that wrong. Sorry. I was looking on your Instagram page. You don't have your name on there anymore. Anyways, so go ahead and search 120. You'll find all the notes in there. But just to give you a little bit of a, of a heads up to over the next couple of weeks, you or months, you're going to find that I'm going to be posting a lot more stuff about a book. So if you've been following my content for a while, you know that I, again, I like making content and I've experienced some back pain over my life. I've had two major incidences of it and I've been able to learn a lot from it. Now, the book that I've created, it's about a four hour read.

It's going to be mainly focused on how to get your mind right for recovery. And if you're a patient, have you ever, has anyone ever offered you help and you didn't take it? Think about, think about why. Think about the mental barrier. Did you not trust the person? Did you not trust the process? Do you have a belief that your, your back is weak or that you're old or that genetics made you that way? You know, and clinicians think about this too. It's like when you have a patient call, what is the hangup? It's not always just price. Sometimes they have a past belief about what's going on with them, with their, with their body.

Also too, if you write an, write an amazing article on something and some people call and some people don't, what's the difference, right? So I personally believe there is a big mental barrier between deciding to get better and not. And in the book, I made the example of the cool runnings analogy where Yul Brenner walks up junior to the window or the mirror and he says, Hey, I see pride. I see power, you know? So he gets down with that and getting him into a winning mindset to go out and have that bar fight basically. So that is the premise of the book. There is no corrective stuff in there. It tells a story of my back pain, how I recovered, what the, some stuff I did, some stuff that I did to recover, as well as some mental exercise you can use to get yourself in a mental mindset for recovery.

Get a winning mindset first before you actually start implementing the stuff. There's a lot of, there's a lot of debunking myths in there as well as going into a lot of the common diagnosis you hear, degenerative disc disease, disc herniations, facet syndrome, pinched nerves, muscle spasms, you're out of alignment, you're old, things like that. So those are all in there and I touch on them all and give them merit or not give them merit based upon what I've read and what I've learned. So if you guys are interested in this book, it's going to be available on the site, ptsportscare.com. And there's also an audible version, there's going to be.

So if you like my voice or you don't have time, the audible is going to be there. So I'm hoping this is going to really get a lot more people in for care all around the world and try to get them through their mental barrier first. So it's something I'm really excited about. So thanks again, Grant, for being on. It was amazing. And you put me back into the mind space of being a student. You're doing a great job. And I'll talk to you guys later. Oh, I forgot. I got to sign out, huh? I think I forgot last time is leave people better than how you found them. And if you're a dater, date an Eagle Scout.

See you guys later.